Locals | Carole Pope

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Carole Pope was lead singer of the Toronto New Wave rock band Rough Trade in the 1970’s and early 1980’s. In 2008, Ms. Pope moved to the East Village, where she is recording a new solo album, due out early next year.

After releasing their album “Avoid Freud” in 1980, Rough Trade traveled from Toronto to perform in New York City. Ms. Pope loved the edginess of the East Village 30 years ago. Now that she lives here, the noise makes her edgy.

“I just want to kill all the Carrie Bradshaw wannabees,” she said. “They don’t know how to hold their liquor. We did.”

In the spring, Ms. Pope is scheduled to be honored with an OutMusic Award, for a career in which she has been cited as an influence by such artists as k.d. lang and Divine. And Ms. Pope is scheduled to perform Saturday at the Brooklyn Museum.

Ms. Pope recently met with The Local at Vandaag on Third Avenue and Sixth Street. When a worker started pounding on the wall above the front door to the restaurant, Ms. Pope jumped and said “Sounds like my place.”

“If I was rich I’d definitely move to the West Village,” she added.

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You’re scheduled to receive an OutMusic award in the spring. How would you assess your influence on the New Wave scene?

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I’ve had more of an influence in Canada than here, though I’m kind of a cult babe here. I was the first kind of androgynous, sexual, asexual, bondage-wearing singer in Canada. My band was Rough Trade and we kind of broke everything open for a lot of other bands. There was not much going on, and we were there to fill this void, that translated to a lot of things to a lot of people.

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What was it like in Canada at the time?

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Agents didn’t want to book us because they’re like “Nobody wants to hear original material. They just want to hear Top 40 stuff.” There were a lot of other bands around, like the Viletones, who cut each other and had fights on stage, but we were kind of much more sophisticated.

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What were you listening to 30 years ago?

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Talking Heads, Gary Numan, Ultravox, The Screamers, Throbbing Gristle, B-52s, the Slits, Blondie, for sure, Devo, a bunch of British bands. Pet Shop Boys. Were they around 30 years ago?

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How has New York changed over the last 30 years?

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New York is definitely more gentrified than it was. Take the East Village, and certainly Alphabet City, where you would never find me 30 years ago. Back in the day, there was CBGB and we worked with Divine. I got to meet Robert Maplethorpe and Patti Smith back in the day. And Klaus Nomi. The club scene was much more exciting.

Carole PopeNathaniel Page Ms. Pope is performing Saturday at the Brooklyn Museum.
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What motivated you to move here?

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I lived in L.A. for, like, 18 years. Most of the time I was in L.A. I was like, ‘Why am I here?’ I did move there because I thought I would get a record deal and I didn’t. I did write with people, and I did perform, and blah blah blah. But I wanted to be closer to Europe, because I can’t afford to live in Europe, but this is much closer, and closer to Toronto, because I work a lot in Canada.

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What clubs do you go to?

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I go to Joe’s Pub a lot. I used to go to the Slipper Room. Is that even open now? I just went to the studio at Webster Hall. Town Hall. Arlene’s Grocery.

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Tell me about your new album.

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I usually write about the same subjects. Human sexuality, politics, gay rights a little bit. I’m going to be writing with Rufus Wainright and Hawksley Workman, who is this amazing Canadian singer-songwriter, and hopefully Alain Johannes if he can find a minute. He’s a brilliant guitarist and writer and we wrote together on my last album.

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You did a song for the “Trailer Park Boys” soundtrack.

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We just had a song on the soundtrack. But I actually met the Trailer Park Boys in Toronto and got really really drunk with them. I was surprised by how funny they actually are, because I thought I’d really dislike them, but they’re hysterical.

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What have you been listening to lately?

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Beach House. Tegan and Sara, because I met them last year. They’re like amazing twenty-somethings. Jónsi, because I’m a huge fan of Sigur Rós. Björk, who I just think is God. And one of the greatest live performers I’ve ever seen. I’m in the middle of recording an album, so I’m mostly listening to myself.